So this was just fucking around in the garden of my host parents, they got a kick out of it.
This is setting up for a horizontal behind the back twirl
You can see the thumb twirl in this one. Its where you put your thumb up next to your center knot and let them spin for several revolutions
And who says my facial expressions are hard to read.
I included this one mainly because one can se the difference of angle that happens, you want that angle to be as open as possible.